Love and Taxes(Results For The Singles Project - April 2008)
If anyone's thinking of starting a "Hope you're healing properly after bending over for the IRS without lube" line of greeting cards, please let me know so I can buy stock. I'm also thinking of investing in "Where In The World is Your Tax Shelter?" board games, though it just occurred to me that one must already have a tax shelter in order to have anything to invest in the first place...eggs and chickens all over again.
For this month's Singles Project, I asked:
1) Have you ever entered into a relationship, for any length of time, for financial or material considerations?
2) Have you ever stayed in a relationship for financial or material considerations that you would have otherwise ended?
3) Have you ever used gifts or money to seduce, or hold on to a lover or mate?
And you said the following:
Frank (Atlanta, GA)
So, sex for money:
Let's face it, sex, love, romance, whatever you want to call it, always costs us something. If it's true love,we usually don't care about the cost. And if you can afford it and the sex is really good, it's often worth the price. The problem comes when cost outstrips satisfaction, and if that sounds cold-blooded blame it on seeing too many people hurt.
Two older friends (I'm assuming both were older, though I know for sure only one was) paid for sex and love they never got. And the sad part was that neither person who fleeced them, and it was fleecing as sure as if they'd walked into the guys' houses and walked off with their wallets, was worth the price.
One friend became enamored of a straight co-worker who might have had a nice body once, but was dissipated by too much drink and too many street hookers by the time my friend fell. When the love-object lost his job, my friend loaned him money, took him into his condo and devoted way too much time to a relationship that only brought him frustration, insults and, ultimately a broken heart.
The other friend became enamored of a gay young actor in town who was neither very good nor very good-looking. He took him along on his annual pilgrimage to England. Both knew what he was hoping for, but they never discussed it, and it never would have happened anyway. The actor quipped to friends that he knew what my friend wanted, but he wasn't going to come across because, "I'm not a whore." In truth, he simply wasn't an honest whore.
Saltpetre, anyone?
L Girl (Los Angeles, CA)
1) I've never entered INTO a relationship for financial reasons, but I have in the past decided to coinhabit with the person I'm dating based on financial circumstances("I mean I stay over 5 nights out of the week anyway, so we might as well split the cable bill.." ..Each time ending, let's just say, not so well. Would I do it again based solely on financial/material reasons? Well, let's just say only if I got to live there for free, the house was GINORMOUS, and the sex was REALLY fantastic. And if he'd cook every meal for me.
2) Who wants to admit this?? Alas, I have no shame, apparently. I was once in a three month mock-romance with a boy we'll just call "WB Boy". WB Boy was handsome, charming, and often had $60,000 checks mixed up with his junk mail on the dining room table. The perfect romance... aside from the fact the I knew all too well I probably had the nickname amongst his friends as either his "Trophy" or "Rebound #4". I knew that there was something very inauthentic about our "love", but I decided to overlook it for three months based on countless nights of wonderful Italian dinners and rare wines. But 10 pounds and almost two jeans sizes later, I decided that no amount of smooth talk over candlelight or roses could repair my heart, or my new stretch marks. Bye, bye, bye, WB. I'm moving onto CW.
3) Well, if I HAD the money to shower my lover with gifts and such... why would I need to use such things to maintain a relationship when I'm simply THAT good in bed???
...Just kidding. (sort of). (why don't you ask him). (if he says anything different, tell me. I'll chop it off). :D
-"L"
Adam (Los Angeles, CA)
Yes to all 3 questions.
JJ (Los Angeles, CA)
1) Never. I could never date for money – they end up owning you. My dad used to offer money and a car at 16 (not for sex you sickos), but if you accepted such gifts, you had to run errands for him or “decide to move wherever he wanted you to live” because he gave you a large gift. No thanks, I like being independent.
2) Nope, if I don’t like you, there’s no money that will allow me to stay with you.
3) I tend to be nice and do things for others naturally. If it’s not working out, I may try to be a little nicer, but if it’s not working, what’s the point of spending money on someone who doesn’t give a damn??? That’s worse than buying a lottery ticket.
Shan-a girl (Los Angeles, CA)
1. Right before I met my hubby-to-the-max Ko, I had decided very earnestly to date someone who worked either at Whole Foods or Sevananda (an Atlanta health food store). Why? Partly because both establishments employ super cute, suitably dreadlocked lotharios of the "I use essential oils" ilk, but more importantly because I am hungry, a lot, and I like my products to be steroid and ddt free. So you see my logic. One bird. Two stones.
Of course just weeks after making this inspired decision, I met Ko and his non-profit workin' no discount getting butt ruined all my plans. Now I have to pay for groceries like any other chump.
2. No, but I did once decide NOT to date a guy who was really into me because I felt quite certain that despite all the out-of-tune, three-chord, distortion-happy music i listened to, he was way, way, seriously too punk rock for me. He squatted in a condemned building in downtown Portland, spent the weekend's at his mom's to shower, etc., had an ex-wife who was 40 years old (he was 26), oh, and a kid. He was so nice. So sincere and non-judgemental. But alas I let his safety-pinned jeans pass me by while I pined after someone way less cool but who had an address and a telephone. I suck.
3. No, but I have used my own financial independence and oh so righteous work ethic to push guys away when they tried to buy me things or take care of me in any way that I considered financial. So basically I insisted on buying a lot of my own meals and jewelry. Okay, okay. I had probbbbblems. I get it. Chip on the shoulder and all that. I have since learned to say thank you and not go into an anti-consumerism, materialism rant... most of the time. Thank you.
Christopher (Los Angeles, CA)
1) The offer has never been made, although there was one time when an extremely unattractive older guy wanted me to sleep with him for the lead in the low budget play he was producing. No kidding. It was hard for me to believe that sort of thing actually happened, much less that this guy (who was creepy creepy creepy) could imagine that I would ever agree to be with him in order to be cast in some black box production way up in the Bronx! At the time, I was barely more than a teenager, and was pretty enough to be mistaken for a girl, which happened more often than I care to admit. So, no. I did not get the part.
If however, I were to meet some nice fellow who had the means to help me get out of debt, and if he were a great match on all other levels, then I would have no objection to having him pay my rent, or pick up the tab, or lend a hand with the unexpected expenses a starving artist has to face. I'm not talking luxury. I really do know how to stretch a dollar, and live like a church mouse most of the time, so it would not be like I was jet setting around burning cash mindlessly. It would just be nice to know that next month's bills were already covered, for a change.
2) No, this has never come up either, but judging from the unhappy jobs I was not able to stand a moment longer, no matter what the paycheck, it seems unlikely that I would stay in a relationship solely for the money.
3) It should be obvious from the way I have described my pathetic financial standing, that this scenario has not arisen. If I truly loved someone, I'd like to think I would do whatever I could for them. Using that same whatever to hold onto them if they did not love me back, would be very sad. I would hope that, if it should ever happen, I would have the maturity to let the other person go.
There you have it. Broke. Without pride. Still single.
****Thanks to everyone who submitted this time around. Your authentic/trademarked Garab Chronicles greeting cards are in the mail. 3 more questions coming at the end of the month****




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